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     sudo ceph fs set mediafs max_mds 2
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+
+## managing cephfs with subvolumes
+
+Create erasure code profiles. The K and M values are equivalent to the number of data disks (K) and parity disks (M) in RAID5, RAID6, etc.
+
+    sudo ceph osd erasure-code-profile set ec_6_2 k=6 m=2
+    sudo ceph osd erasure-code-profile set ec_4_1 k=4 m=1
+
+Create data pools using the erasure-code-profile, set some required options
+
+    sudo ceph osd pool create cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2 erasure ec_6_2
+    sudo ceph osd pool set cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2 allow_ec_overwrites true
+    sudo ceph osd pool set cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2 bulk true
+
+    sudo ceph osd pool create cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1 erasure ec_4_1
+    sudo ceph osd pool set cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1 allow_ec_overwrites true
+    sudo ceph osd pool set cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1 bulk true
+
+Add the pool to the fs `cephfs`
+
+    sudo ceph fs add_data_pool cephfs cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2
+    sudo ceph fs add_data_pool cephfs cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1
+
+Create a subvolumegroup using the new data pool
+
+    sudo ceph fs subvolumegroup create cephfs csi_ssd_ec_6_2 --pool_layout cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2
+    sudo ceph fs subvolumegroup create cephfs csi_ssd_ec_4_1 --pool_layout cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1
+
+All together:
+
+    sudo ceph osd erasure-code-profile set ec_6_2 k=6 m=2
+    sudo ceph osd pool create cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2 erasure ec_6_2
+    sudo ceph osd pool set cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2 allow_ec_overwrites true
+    sudo ceph osd pool set cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2 bulk true
+    sudo ceph fs add_data_pool cephfs cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2
+    sudo ceph fs subvolumegroup create cephfs csi_ssd_ec_6_2 --pool_layout cephfs_data_ssd_ec_6_2
+
+    sudo ceph osd erasure-code-profile set ec_4_1 k=4 m=1
+    sudo ceph osd pool create cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1 erasure ec_4_1
+    sudo ceph osd pool set cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1 allow_ec_overwrites true
+    sudo ceph osd pool set cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1 bulk true
+    sudo ceph fs add_data_pool cephfs cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1
+    sudo ceph fs subvolumegroup create cephfs csi_ssd_ec_4_1 --pool_layout cephfs_data_ssd_ec_4_1
+
+Create a key with access to the new subvolume groups. Check if the user already exists first:
+
+    sudo ceph auth get client.kubernetes-cephfs
+
+If it doesnt:
+
+    sudo ceph auth get-or-create client.kubernetes-cephfs \
+      mgr 'allow rw' \
+      osd 'allow rw tag cephfs metadata=cephfs, allow rw tag cephfs data=cephfs' \
+      mds 'allow r fsname=cephfs path=/volumes, allow rws fsname=cephfs path=/volumes/csi_ssd_ec_6_2, allow rws fsname=cephfs path=/volumes/csi_ssd_ec_4_1' \
+      mon 'allow r fsname=cephfs'
+
+If it does, use `sudo ceph auth caps client.kubernetes-cephfs ...` instead to update existing capabilities.
+
+## removing a cephfs subvolumegroup from cephfs
+
+This will cleanup the subvolumegroup, and subvolumes if they exist, then remove the pool.
+
+Check for subvolumegroups first, then for subvolumes in it
+
+    sudo ceph fs subvolumegroup ls cephfs
+    sudo ceph fs subvolume ls cephfs --group_name csi_raid6
+
+
+If subvolumes exist, remove each one-by-one:
+
+    sudo ceph fs subvolume rm cephfs <subvol_name> --group_name csi_raid6
+
+If you have snapshots, remove snapshots first:
+
+    sudo ceph fs subvolume snapshot ls cephfs <subvol_name> --group_name csi_raid6
+    sudo ceph fs subvolume snapshot rm cephfs <subvol_name> <snap_name> --group_name csi_raid6
+
+Once the group is empty, remove it:
+
+    sudo ceph fs subvolumegroup rm cephfs csi_raid6
+
+If it complains it’s not empty, go back as there’s still a subvolume or snapshot.
+
+If you added it with `ceph fs add_data_pool`. Undo with `rm_data_pool`:
+
+    sudo ceph fs rm_data_pool cephfs cephfs_data_csi_raid6
+
+After it’s detached from CephFS, you can delete it.
+
+    sudo ceph osd pool rm cephfs_data_csi_raid6 cephfs_data_csi_raid6 --yes-i-really-really-mean-it
+
+
 ## creating authentication tokens
 
 - this will create a client keyring named media